MINUTES
PARK CITY BAR ASSOCIATION
August 17, 2000

Members in attendance:

Christina Miller, Michael Katz, Natalie Segall, and Dwayne Vance (who was severely reprimanded for being tardy)

Meeting is called to closest thing resembling order that is possible with such a group

Minutes from July 20, 2000 meeting reviewed and approved

Discussion of scheduling regular monthly meetings (this seems to be a recurring topic)

a. 8:00 a.m. is the clear winner for time of meeting

b. Lee could make it on Mondays, but some reluctance to hold meeting on Monday morning without ability to remind people the day before

C.Meetings will be held the third Thursday of every month at 8:00 a.m. in the conference room of Tesch, Thompson & Vance; Dwayne will try to remember to have his secretary send out a reminder to everyone the week before and the day before the meeting

4. Report on Tuesday Night Bar by Christina

a. At least Christina, Barbara and Mark attended (there may have been other attorneys, but then again, maybe not)

b. There was a good turnout from the public; not all of them are necessarily low income, but we are still serving the community

C. Following up a discussion from last month's meeting, it was decided that the PC Bar will purchase a softbound set of the 2000 Utah Code to have available at the Tuesday Night Bar; cost is $163, plus shipping, handling and sales tax (for those of you who were in attendance at the meeting and don't recall this discussion, it was accorn plished by means of Christina blinking in morse code, which she learned in order to send a distress signal to her family and friends when she was kidnapped by Swiss terrorists and forced to denounce inferior American chocolate in a video that was released to the press; anyway, if anyone has any objections to such a purchase, speak now or forever hold your peace)

5. Discussion of CLE

a. Natalie reported that De Fisher wants to do a CLE on mediation (several moments of stunned silence followed as it took a while for the concept to sink in that after all of our many efforts, we finally have a volunteer from the membership at large)

b. Natalie also reported on her efforts to organize a CLE addressing how to rent out your home/condo/apartment/office/trailer/shack for the Olympics

i. She has been in contact with SLOC, so that they could participate on the panel, and she was told that if we waited until after SLOC returned from the Sydney Olympics, that they would be in a better position to address this topic (not surprisingly, we are going to do their bidding and wait)

ii. Tentatively planning an evening in late October; panel discussion format; probably a two hour extravaganza (doesn't it sound festive?); open to other professionals and the public at large; possibly send invitations to local housing and real estate professionals; probably charge a small fee, especially if refreshments are served (or to put things in proper perspective, we should charge an outrageous fee in the hopes of cashing in on some of that Olympic payola, and end up having nothing but empty space)

iii. Natalie has talked to Connie at the State Bar, who really, really likes the idea, stated that we should definitely charge for it, and is willing to send out mailers to Bar members at no expense to us (you gotta love the freebies); Connie also explained that there is a difference between charging for refreshments and charging for the CLE itselfwe can charge for refreshments without having to kickback anything to the State Bar, however if we charge for the CLE itself we have to slide some greenbacks in the direction of the State Bar

iv. It is possible that we may even make some money off of this proram (any possibility we might actually make money deserves its own bullet point)

V. At this point it is hard to estimate what kind of attendance we might have (see, e.g., discussion below re: attendance at Capitol Reef Retreat); Natalie is going to look into space at the library for this gala

We hope to pin down more details by the September meeting Natalie will contact Alex and inquire who he was going to have for the DUI CLE, and try to get that going; amidst considerable, albeit positive, peer pressure, Christina graciously agreed to do the DLU CLE if Natalie needed someone to pinch hit (Christina is also reputed to be quite the switch hitter, although in all honesty she does need to work on her fielding)

d. Natalie will send out a letter to the members soliciting ideas and speakers for other CLE's; knowing how much success similar inquiries have had in the past, the following ideas were thrown out for consideration Mike can do one on personal injury Christina can do a family law CLE

iii. Encore performance by Dave Littlefield on immigration

iv. We are almost positive that Lee would be thrilled to do another one on employment law

V. Dave Mabey, one of our illustrious guest speakers at the Capitol Reef Retreat, can probably be persuaded to do a water law presentation

e. Discussion of having Judge Hilder do a luncheon or even an evening meeting with the PC Bar to discuss practice in Summit County similar to his presentation at the Capitol Reef Retreat (which was a real treat, and those who didn't attend, which is pretty much everyone, really missed out)

6. Report on Capitol Reef Retreat

a. Disappointing turnout in spite of the many comments from people that they had planned on going, wanted to go, thought it would be too hot, blah, blah, blah

b. The weather was actually quite pleasant (i.e., it was not too hot) Those who attended had a rousing good time, and earned CLE in the process

The water law presentation by Dave Mabey, the environmental law presentation by Herb (a.k.a. Tim, Craig, etc.) McCarg, and the discussion on practice pointers by Judge Hilder were all excellent

An effort will be made to have some type of getaway for the PC Bar each Summer, perhaps Capitol Reef again, or Lake Powell, or we are open to suggestions (hopefully next year the rest of the Bar won't be such wimps about the weather)

7. Discussion of CLE & Ski

a. Christina is following up with The Canyons as the host site; Deer Valley not an option, and we think we can get a better deal at The Canyons than at Park City Mountain Resort

b. Christina will also follow up with Wendy regarding bank subsidies

C. Discussion of moderator and panel composition; Larry Fox has been good in the past (need to pay for his travel and lodging, possibly could stay in TT&V condo at Grand Summit Lodge), Judge Kozinski out of the Ninth Circuit is a strong contender, possibly the ethics professors from local law schools on panel

d. We should extend personal invitations to the various judges who have come up to Park City in recent yearsJudges Hilder, Brian, Nehring, Bohling" Iwasaki, Livingston

e.

8.Will try to do earlier in the year, such as early to mid March Report from Christina on Utah State Bar Board of Commissioners Meetings/Calendar

a. Next one is scheduled for tomorrow, beginning at 9:00 a.m., and apparently lasting all day; topics include Supreme Court task force, ethics advisory opinions, and appointment of new commissioners (at this point the only audible sound other than Christina's voice is the faint sound of chirping crickets somewhere in the distance)

b. Christina did note that the Commissioner's calendar listed the upcoming BYU/Wyoming football game (really, I'm not even making this up)

9. Discussion of PC Bar website

a. It appears that Lade Heaton has won (survived) the gladiators challenge, and will be the champion of the PC Bar website; hopefully we will have a full report on this at our next meeting (hey Lade, if you have been wondering why minutes of this meeting were forwarded to you, I think you just found the answer)

b. Natalie reported that she has talked to Lincoln Mead, the webmaster (what a cool title) for the Utah State Bar, and he will post anything we want (within good taste and reason, which may actually be a factor for us) on the State Bar website, and he is also available and willing to help us set up our own website

10. Christina noted that she would like to have a copy of the current members; Mark, you can get this information from the State Bar as part of the check the box registration on the annual State Bar registration fon, nto date we haven't had anyone sign up with the PC Bar directly for the current year

11.Discussion of end of Summer Social

a. Christina recommended that we hold it on the deck of Silver Lake Lodge (which recommendation was received well and heartily endorsed by those in attendance, with the added recommendation that Don Henley's "Boys of Summer" be designated the official theme song)

Would be nice to have within the next three weeks (interpretation: we won't have another PC Bar meeting to plan this); Christina will have Lee check into scheduling, advertising, etc.

C. Judge Hilder should definitely be invited

12. It was noted for the record that Mike's email address is mkatz@s&j.com (hey Mike, I am going to try and send minutes to you by email from now on, so let me know if you don't receive this month's installment; if I don't hear from you I will just assume that you received the minutes by email with no problems whatsoever)

13. Judge Hilder's niece, Kate (no one was bright enough to ask her last name) joined the meeting (actually, she joined the meeting closer to its beginning, but it's always nice to have a good note to end on); she has recently been admitted as a barrister in Australia (I think that's right, but everyone knows what kind of track record I have), and will be interning with Judge Hilder for three months, maybe longer; lets all make her feel welcome

The meeting was thereafter adjourned (much to the relief of everyone present)ay ce, Secretary